Mrs. Anderson - Saying Goodbye: Pearls & Pitfalls Video Transcript

 

Interpersonal Communication And Relationship Enhancement (I*CARE)
Mastering Difficult Communications - Spectrum of Cancer Care
Mrs. Anderson
Saying Goodbye: Pearls & Pitfalls
Time: 3:40

Walter F Baile, M.D.
Professor, Behavioral Science
The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center


 

Dr. Baile:
This is, undoubtedly, not the physician's last interaction with Mrs. Anderson, but in many ways, it's a "saying goodbye." She's making an important transition in care and he offers her closure on the relationship. Here we saw, yet again, the importance of checking the patient's perception before proceeding. In this case, it allows the doctor to acknowledge the gravity of the situation.

 

Dr. Buckman:
Not really. It's okay. Is it okay if we have a talk about how things are at the moment? Yeah? How do you think you're doing at the moment?

Mrs. Anderson:
I don't think that it's going very well.

Dr. Buckman:
No. No, it isn't. I'm sorry to say that it isn't going well.

 

Dr. Baile:
The doctor also uses the "Narrative Approach" successfully here. In essence, he tells the story of Mrs. Anderson's illness. This allows him to ease her into the news he has to impart: that no further treatment is available. And it also gives him the opportunity to approach the situation gradually to the point where he can tell her that any further anti-cancer treatment would be futile. And as you saw, this led to the question about prognosis. It would be tempting to avoid this conversation altogether. In doing so, the physician, however, would have missed the opportunity to find out something more he could do for this patient, and would have missed the therapeutic intervention. One way physicians, at times, avoid this kind of encounter is to continue futile therapy or to promise a clinical trial and both of these are, sort of, really pitfalls. Finally, telling a very ill patient that there's no treatment available that will arrest their cancer can be very painful and stressful for the physician and even evoke a sense of sadness or guilt or failure. So reflecting on and acknowledging our own distress can allow us to separate the message from the messenger, in a sense, so we can be supportive to the patient. This physician also did that by focusing on the behavior of the cancer.

 

Dr. Buckman:
This - I've said this many times over the years - this breast cancer was, um, behaved aggressively from the very beginning. It did nasty things and you have always been, and you are now, a remarkable and brave lady. I'm sorry. I want you to know that.

Mrs. Anderson:
Thank you.

Dr. Buckman:
I'm going to come see you tomorrow morning.

Mrs. Anderson:
Okay.

Dr. Buckman:
I'll let you sleep. Bye-bye for now Mrs. Anderson.

Mrs. Anderson:
Thank you.

 

Dr. Baile:
A final comment: this doctor took the opportunity to tell Mrs. Anderson that she was a remarkable lady, actually, to compliment her. I have no doubt it was a very emotional encounter for the doctor, but it was also a therapeutic one for his patient. I think it's helpful to think of encounters - conversations with patients - as potential therapeutic interventions. This helps us as physicians to take the time and effort to do them right.

 

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